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Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.16 08:42:00 - [1] Nice breef battle report (don't let Jake come anywhere near it!!!). Thanks.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.16 14:48:00 - [2] Originally by: Zumzat Originally by: Shadoo It's good to see that the general -A- membership has forgotted how much fun you had in DG . Now you'll have 5-6 of those clusters to deal with given how late you are. My experience says that the most resistance comes @ first cluster, then usually it drops Yes, you're entirely right. You encountered a lot of resistance in DG (the first cluster) and then YOU dropped.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.16 14:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Zumzat Originally by: Chairman Lmao Hey now, screwing over their friends was a time-honored tradition in MC, one that AAA respects and practices equally. Wait, wait, wait, wasn't that GS who encouraged MC to reset BOB and then drawing brofists and props in locals and caod? O_O And then "we didn't want that traitors anyway!" when MC/Tortuga were left alone to face BOB's rage? And you let youself such "magic self-ownage" trolling? Amazing! Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Yes, you're entirely right. You encountered a lot of resistance in DG (the first cluster) and then YOU dropped. You wanna talk about GSvsAAA conflict in south? No, not that really. I'm here just to aggravate things.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.16 15:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Jovian Strain Quote: Yes, you're entirely right. You encountered a lot of resistance in DG (the first cluster) and then YOU dropped. Says TCF, who abandoned their space first and ran off faster than anyone to the safety of the NAPlands up north. But hey, you nor goons never wanted those southern regions anyhow right Its becoming an iconic NC/goon one liner these days. Oh, check this out http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png!!! Wicked Creek is still there dude and it ain't coloured by you nor your buddies. Yeah, we ran and never came back.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.16 21:25:00 - [5] Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 16/03/2009 21:25:37 Originally by: Seph Res Originally by: Jovian Strain Quote: Yes, you're entirely right. You encountered a lot of resistance in DG (the first cluster) and then YOU dropped. Says TCF, who abandoned their space first and ran off faster than anyone to the safety of the NAPlands up north. But hey, you nor goons never wanted those southern regions anyhow right Its becoming an iconic NC/goon one liner these days. dont forget, french, run, tanks with reverse gears, do i have to bring more comments? Comments? Uhm, no, but you could at least rephrase and pull some meaning out of... whatever you're trying to say.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 10:13:00 - [6] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Arramis after 1 mounth goon directorship still makes propaganda about nothing:), and fails by thinking that many do not understand that, strategicaly speacking, goons failed from beginning. Why?, in verry simple words - logistical costs and human nature. failed so hard they took delve with barely any resistance, you're pretty stupid, guy Because losing 4 regions to take 1 is the new cool, right? No, but losing all of them is the coolest thing ever!!!!
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 12:55:00 - [7] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: xttz I'm sure that single Dysprosium moon in Tenerifis is a massive boost to their war income. You'll note that I said 'AAA Powerbloc' and I think you need to consider the other three regions you lost. The moon income in Prom/Dyps is really very considerable. Could you back that up with numbers (lost/gained ration)?
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 13:12:00 - [8] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Could you back that up with numbers (lost/gained ration)? The combined high-end moon income of Est, Feyth, Omist, Tenerifis, et al is approx 250-300bn isk a month. Someone with exact moon counts can probably give a precise figure there. Est alone is 170bn ish a month at current prices... Ok, what about the combined gain for Delve/Querios?
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:29:00 - [9] Originally by: xttz Originally by: O Thief If that is the fact, how come aAa gave all them iskies to Systematic Chaos and C0VEN? Seems odd to me that they would leave that much in the hands of their allies... The Stain-wagon took all of Esoteria from us before we moved to Delve. Our moon income at that point was down to under 150bn/month. We were unable to defend the area due to the huge amounts of pos spam they produced which would have cost dozens of billions of isk to counter. I'm sure if Ushra'Khan ever ascend to the dizzying heights of being a 0.0 spaceholding alliance they may experience the fun of being tower-spammed on multiple fronts, and the need to cede certain space to protect the rest. Delve, Querious and Period Basis contain more r64 moons than all of those we owned in our old space, even before losing Esoteria. They form an income currently worth over 400bn a month. Many are protected by a sov4 umbrella. None of them are more than 3 jumps from empire (most are 1 or 2) and unlike Esoteria they do not require a route through an extremely hostile Catch or insanely long route via Detorid to supply. I'm adding the fact that by taking Delve and Querios, the former BoB alliance is left with close to 0 0.0 income. It's a fact not to be dismissed.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:25:00 - [10] Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 23/03/2009 15:25:34 Originally by: O Thief Anyway if you can't see that the biggest net gain in territory and income is AAA, you are the clueless one, not I. Kenny = down 400bn a month, down 3 regions Goons = up 100bn a month, down 1 region (net) AAA & Co = up 300bn a month, up 4 regions Why don't you put it this way: Kenny = down 400bn a month, down TO 0.5 regions. AAA (& Co) already had ****load of ISK. More is always welcome, but I don't see that ISK going kenny's way, which is really what matters. Now, please be kind and give the angry stare to your own propaganda, too.

Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 18:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Tobruk what points are you talking about?? you simply stated that they are separate as a matter of fact. You provided no evidence to support your claim I, on the other hand, pointed out that they fight together and theyÆll die together. ... Actually, AAA is already dancing on their grave as ET declared. The funny thing is that he didn't think it would happen that fast.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 22:30:00 - [12] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Hardin Always? Really? Computer says no: http://www.a-kills.com/alliance.php?alliance=Ushra'Khan May I point you at the 'Favourite Targets' section. Whatever deal UK has done with -A- is relatively recent... Hell -A- killed your leader's Sleipner as recently as September 2008... Another UK Council member Maggot also downed also in September 2008 Or maybe -A- killing Zoolkhan in October 2008 was just them showing their gratitude for UK's eternal support? I know it is unpleasant of me to bring up facts such as these, particularly when you are working your hardest on ingratiating yourself with -A- but I can hardly let such terrorist inaccuracies pass! Christ, Hardin. Are you really that desperate to score forum points you're going to bring me up on semantics? Of course I meant 'we have supported them since the start of the offensive we're talking about' and indeed before then. Have we been blue with AAA since the dawn of time? Of course not. But we didn't hop on the bandwagon after the action started either. Clearly I can't mean 'always', since that would encompass all time, known and unknown, taking us back before EVE and indeed electricity was invented. I think what I'm trying to say is - stop being an idiot. Gold
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.24 10:30:00 - [13] Originally by: O Thief Because arguing semantics is the sure sign of having a solid, reasoned arguement keep posting about semantics guys, maybe no-one will notice The only one troubled by "semantics" is you. That's because you're the only one thinking that they are "semantics". But!!! Don't change, you're the one these forums would be missing. Originally by: O Thief ITT: goons/pl in denial that AAA have benefitted from the pos-spam disbandwagon a lot more than they have You should actually consider yourself being in denial. Parting BoBR (? lol) from -A- won't dismiss the fact that the former were left without a 0.0 income. So, before you'd go further into your rabble-rabble drill, think for a moment and realize that by taking Feythabolis, Esoteria, Paragon Soul and Omist FIRST, they've done the biggest favour to the Coalition. These regions were left for grabs anyway. They weren't an urgent matter, but Delve and Querios were. Good luck pushing into defended cynojammed systems or 49-
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:27:00 - [14] Originally by: andys cz Killing NC caps atm, one by one ... and you're using your own capitals to do it! How awesome could that be? (Too bad about the towers.)
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.27 10:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Futt Bucker I'll let you in on a little secret, less space = less fuel. So if I spammed 400 towers in one region, that costs me less than fuelling 300 towers in three regions? You're pretty good at shooting yourself in the foot these days.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.27 12:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 27/03/2009 11:08:29 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam You're pretty good at shooting yourself in the foot these days. And you're pretty good at failing to read. I think you're just playing semantics on me.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.27 17:24:00 - [17] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Butter Dog The goons lost around 300bn a month of moon income from former territories. Delve is a nice region, however once the new moon income has been divided up as per the agreements made with NC etc, Goons are financially worse off than before. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Unfortunately for you, I do Don't worry, Butter Cups, as long as it stays only in your mind, the world is safe.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.27 18:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk i think bitter dog is getting his 300 bil number from the entire dyspro/prom moon count in all the regions goons used to live in (probly based on the unreliable numbers bob had on their director forums) he's wrong of course because goons never had anywhere near all of that, their allies had a bunch of it as did SE etc The Estoria moons alone are worth 180bn at current prices. I suppose you can argue it depends on when you started caluculating it. If we take the point before SE/Coven etc took Estoria with the help of AAA, then the 300bn figure is about accurate. What cannot be argued is that the greatest beneficiary of the war, by far, is the AAA-wagon. Thats really the key point. Hey, guys, I have a point, I have a point!!! Guys! Guuuuys!?

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